Andreas Joseph (Andrew) Rosentreter

Andreas Joseph (Andrew) Rosentreter

Male 1845 - 1927  (82 years)

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  • Name Andreas Joseph (Andrew) Rosentreter 
    Birth 19 Jan 1845  Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Buried 1927  Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Death 20 Jul 1927  Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I0390  Rosentreter_Tree
    Last Modified 20 Jan 2022 

    Father Joseph Mathias Rosentreter,   b. 28 Feb 1817, Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Aug 1897, Jeżewo, Świecie County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Anna Catharina Musolf,   b. 10 Nov 1821, Sławęcin, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Jan 1896, Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Marriage 14 Nov 1842  Sławęcin, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    Photos
    Joseph Mathias Rosentreter & Anna Catharina Musolf
    Joseph Mathias Rosentreter & Anna Catharina Musolf
    Family ID F0141  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Rosalie (Rosa) Maria Schulz,   b. 24 Feb 1855, Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Jul 1930, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years) 
    Marriage 21 Apr 1874  Lichnowy, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    Children 
     1. Anna Maria (Mary) Rosentreter,   b. 7 Feb 1875, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 May 1963, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)  [Birth]
     2. Andreas (Andrew) Rosentreter,   b. Abt 1877, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1879, At Sea Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 2 years)  [Birth]
     3. Joseph Paul Rosentreter,   b. 2 Feb 1878, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Feb 1972, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years)  [Birth]
     4. Andreas Rosentreter,   b. 21 May 1879, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Sep 1880, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)  [Birth]
     5. Johannes (John) Rosentreter,   b. 3 Jan 1881, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Dec 1915, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 34 years)  [Birth]
     6. Paul William Rosentreter,   b. 2 Mar 1883, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Jun 1970, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)  [Birth]
     7. Andrew Conrad Rosentreter,   b. 10 Jan 1885, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Jul 1925, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 40 years)  [Birth]
     8. Peter Joseph Rosentreter,   b. 31 Jan 1887, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Apr 1955, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)  [Birth]
     9. Rosa Maria Rosentreter,   b. 30 Jun 1889, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Dec 1918, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 29 years)  [Birth]
     10. Albert John Rosentreter,   b. 26 Apr 1891, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Aug 1959, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)  [Birth]
     11. Alexander Paul Rosentreter,   b. 23 Feb 1894, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Apr 1922, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 28 years)  [Birth]
     12. Regina Jennie Rosentreter,   b. 5 Sep 1896, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Jan 1927, Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 30 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 23 Jan 2022 
    Family ID F0140  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 19 Jan 1845 - Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 21 Apr 1874 - Lichnowy, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 1927 - Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 20 Jul 1927 - Carlinville, Macoupin County, Illinois, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Andreas Joseph Rosentreter & Rosalie Shultz & Family
    Andreas Joseph Rosentreter & Rosalie Shultz & Family

    Documents
    Carlinville Rosentreter Family
    Carlinville Rosentreter Family

  • Notes 
    • Came to America in the early 1880s. Became a citizen of the U.S. on March 29, 1888, having lived there for the required five years before becoming a citizen. A medium size man who had a full, long white beard. - Source: Margaret Rose Rosentreter (nee Bloome)
    • 19 January 1845 : Birth - Abrau, Krs. Konitz
      Sources: Ancestry.de - http://www.Ancestry.de - 1910 United States Federal Census - Ancestry.com - Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Ursprüngliche Daten - Indiziert von ProQuest anhand von auf Mikrofilm aufgezeichneten Listen der US-Volkszählung von 1910. Daten aufgenommen von der National Archives and Records A - 1,7884::0 - Year: 1910; Census Place: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: ; Image: . http://search.Ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910uscenindex&h=5668211&ti=5545&indiv=try&gss=pt - Geburtsdatum: 1844 Geburtsort: Germany Wohnort - Datum: 1910 Wohnort: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois Ankunftsdatum: 1880 Ankunftsort: - 1,7884::5668211
      1874 : Employment - Richnau, Krs. Schlochau
      Besitzer
      21 April 1874 : Marriage (with Rosa Schultz) - Lichnau Krs. Konitz
      1880 : Arrival
      Sources: Ancestry.de - http://www.Ancestry.de - 1910 United States Federal Census - Ancestry.com - Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Ursprüngliche Daten - Indiziert von ProQuest anhand von auf Mikrofilm aufgezeichneten Listen der US-Volkszählung von 1910. Daten aufgenommen von der National Archives and Records A - 1,7884::0 - Year: 1910; Census Place: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: ; Image: . http://search.Ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910uscenindex&h=5668211&ti=5545&indiv=try&gss=pt - Geburtsdatum: 1844 Geburtsort: Germany Wohnort - Datum: 1910 Wohnort: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois Ankunftsdatum: 1880 Ankunftsort: - 1,7884::5668211
      --- : Wohnort - Carlinville
      14 April 1898 : Departure - Hamburg
      --- : Arrival - Southampton, Cherbourg, New York
      20 September 1880 : Arrival - New York, USA
      1910 : Wohnort - Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois
      Sources: Ancestry.de - http://www.Ancestry.de - 1910 United States Federal Census - Ancestry.com - Online-Veröffentlichung - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.Ursprüngliche Daten - Indiziert von ProQuest anhand von auf Mikrofilm aufgezeichneten Listen der US-Volkszählung von 1910. Daten aufgenommen von der National Archives and Records A - 1,7884::0 - Year: 1910; Census Place: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois; Roll: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: ; Image: . http://search.Ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910uscenindex&h=5668211&ti=5545&indiv=try&gss=pt - Geburtsdatum: 1844 Geburtsort: Germany Wohnort - Datum: 1910 Wohnort: Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois Ankunftsdatum: 1880 Ankunftsort: - 1,7884::5668211
      20 July 1927 : Death - Carlinville, Macoupin, Illinois, USA
      22 July 1927 : Burial - Carlinville, IL
    • https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/98296317/andrew-rosentreter
    • Suzanne Schwab Hill (Great Grandaughter)


      ESCAPE FROM CARLINVILLE, ILLINOIS
      Some of what appears below I learned through my uncle, Wilbert Schwab. He likely heard some of this story from his grandmother, Mary Schwab, born Anna Maria Rosentreter. She was the oldest child of Andrew and Rosa Rosentreter. I have found several sources that lend credence to what my uncle told me.
      Andreas (Andrew) Rosentreter was born January 19, 1845, in Abrau, West Prussia, now Poland. His parents were Joseph Mathias Rosentreter and Anna Katarzyna Musolf, part of the Koschneiderei, an area settled by Germans in the 14th century. They maintained their Germanic culture and their Catholic faith.
      According to Joseph Rink’s “Koschneidereisohne,” (Sons of the Koschneiderei) written in 1924, Josef was a prosperous farmer, and sent most of his children to the gymnasium (high school) in Konitz.
      At some point, Andrew served in the Army, returning an alcoholic. He married Rosa Schultz in 1875.
      His brother was Augustus Rosentreter, the last German bishop of Kulm, West Prussia. Augustus met Francis Ostrop while in the seminary. Father Ostrop immigrated to America and became the pastor of St. Joseph Church in Carlinville, Ill., in 1877. Augustus may have thought that if Andrew was to get away from his friends In Abrau, he wouldn’t drink, so Augustus arranged for Andrew and Rosa to immigrate to Carlinville, Ill., with three of their children in 1880. A son named Andrew died on the trip and was buried at sea.
      Andrew was a tenant farmer in rural Carlinville, becoming a citizen in 1888. In late January 1898, he sold some hogs and disappeared. The family learned that he had returned to Abrau and his family of origin.
      His return was documented in “Koschneidereisohne.” Translated here is the commentary:
      “The second eldest son, named Andreas, his destiny driven to America, where he bought rural property. One day homesickness, the yearning for his parental house, for his native country and his brothers and sisters gripped him. Without giving a message to his family before, he rushed a ship, wearing his overalls and came back suddenly and unexpected to his native place to visit his folks.”
      Family lore had it that he wrote a letter home asking his wife and children to return and join him. His wife replied that they were established in America and weren’t returning.
      The Carlinville Democrat had this article in the February 3, 1898, edition:
      “Andrew Rosentreter, who lived on the Steidley farm, west of town, has been missing since last Thursday. That day he sold 40 hogs, receiving about $300 in cash, and since then nothing has been seen or heard of him. He was financially involved, and some of his friends think he has taken up his abode elsewhere. He leaves a wife and seven children. He is a German about (actually 53) 60 years of age, short and heavy build. His friends and relatives are making efforts to locate him or learn whether he has been foully dealt with for the money he had on his person.”
      The Macoupin County Enquirer had this in its February 9, 1898, edition under the headline, “He’ll Never Come Back”:
      “Andrew Rosentreter has been heard from. He is the middle aged farmer, with family, who leased the Steidley farm west of town. January 27 Rosentreter sold his hogs for $275 and suddenly disappeared. The agent at the C&A (railroad) said a man answering to his description purchased a ticket for Chicago. This is now authenticated by a letter dated Chicago from Rosentreter himself to Franz Schultz who resides on the Frickie farm east of Carlinville. He said his intention is to go back to his old home in Germany and whatever happens he will never return to Carlinville. Rosentreter was financially embarrassed and this appears to be his method of getting rid of his troubles. In the meanwhile his family will have to do the best they can.”
      A similar article appeared in the Carlinville Democrat on February 10, 1898, with an additional sentence, “He is running away from his debts as well as his family, as he was deeply involved.”
      His German family must have convinced him to return to Carlinville because he boarded a ship in Hamburg on April 14, 1898. He traveled via the Furst Bismarck to Ellis Island and arrived on April 23, 1898.
      My uncle told me that his wife Rosa refused to allow him to return to the family home. He went to live with daughter Mary and husband Frank. She was due to have a child in May 1898, my grandfather, Edward.
      By the 1900 census he was living with Rosa and the family apparently on a farm, because his occupation was that of farmer in Carlinville Township.
      Andrew died July 20, 1927, and is buried in Old Calvary Cemetery.
    • "Deutschland, Preußen, Westpreußen, Katholische und Lutherisch Kirchenbücher, 1537-1981", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:D4P9-55W2 : 10 September 2021), Joseph Rosentreter in entry for Andreas Joseph Rosentreter, 1845.
    • https://genealogy.musolf.de/getperson.php?personID=I6741&tree=Musolf20210802